Do the Work

Do the Work is a podcast, hosted by Brandon Kyle Goodman, about race and our personal relationships. Each episode is an intimate conversation between two people who know each other well — family, old friends, lovers or colleagues. We bring them together so they can finally have a real conversation about race, and we can all learn how to be anti-racist in our daily lives. We all have bias; let’s talk about it!

Meet Brandon Kyle Goodman

Brandon Kyle Goodman (he/they) is an actor, writer, and activist. His most recent credits include Amazon’s Modern Love, Netflix’s Feel The Beat, and Hulu’s Plus One. He is also a writer for the fourth and fifth seasons of Netflix’s animated series Big Mouth. As a proud, queer, Black person, Goodman has recently emerged as a staunch advocate for the #BlackLivesMatter movement, having gained over 60,000 followers and counting in the span of a few days following a recent viral video message to his white peers regarding his experience being Black in America. When not in front of the screen, Goodman loves to seek out great new eats, work out, binge The Real Housewives, and discover great vocal performances on YouTube. Goodman is currently based in Los Angeles, CA with his husband Matthew, and their puppy, Korey.

Meet Debby Irving

Debby Irving brings to racial justice the perspective of working as acommunity organizer and classroom teacher for 25 years without understandingracism as a systemic issue or her own whiteness as an obstacle to grapplingwith it. As general manager of Boston’s Dance Umbrellaand First Night, and later as a classroom teacher in Cambridge, Massachusetts,she struggled to make sense of tensions she could feel but not explain inracially mixed settings. In 2009, a graduate school course, Racialand Cultural Identities, gave her the answers she’d been looking for andlaunched her on a journey of discovery. Debby now devotes herself to workingwith white people exploring the impact white skin can have on perception,problem-solving, and engaging in racial justice work. Herbook, Waking Up White, tells the story of how she went from well-meaningto well-doing and how she unpacked her own long-held beliefs aboutcolorblindness, being a good person, and wanting to help people of color.